May 9, 2008

Europe namely NATO must commit more to Afghanistan

Al-Qaeda may pose a threat to the U.S. however, the rise of Islam in Europe means that the continent has at least as much to lose with the terror group gaining a safe haven in Afghanistan.

In order to combat a resurgent Taliban and al-Qaeda, the United States recently announced plans to send an extra 7000 troops to Afghanistan, conversely pledges made by Europe remain disappointing, as NATO members remain reluctant to pursue the same course.

The problems appear to stem from a difference of opinion in relation to the success or otherwise of operations in the country. In spite of some 50,000 troops already there, the Taliban is still a force to be reckoned with, fuelled by the advantage of being able to disappear within the local population between operations. While not a crises, the situation is getting worse. NATO defense ministers have dismissed suggestions of failure or lost ground instead insisting that progress was being made. At a recent meeting in Lithuania, the ministers made it clear that the NATO-led international security force (Isaf) was not in jeopardy with Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer adding:

“The picture leads me to tell you that I am cautiously optimistic, that there are challenges, that indeed we need more forces... and that our presence in Afghanistan means sharing responsibilities and also sharing risks,"

Al-Qaeda may pose a threat to the U.S. however, the rise of Islam in Europe means that the continent has at least as much to lose with the terror group gaining a safe haven in Afghanistan. In proportion to population, Canada’s 2500 troops is ahead of the French contingent numbering 1900 as drawn from a population almost twice in size. Yet another European nation in Spain, with a population of 45 million has less than 800 troops stationed being proportionally fewer than Australia.

However protracted the seven-year war may appear, NATO must realize that losing is not an option. It needs to up the ante, through greater troops on the ground. Until this happens, any criticism of Bush especially those accusations of failing to actively Al-Qaeda more vigorously, are unwarranted.

In addition to challenges relating to NATO troop numbers, don't be surprised if a single country takes charge of the entire operation; things are brewing as I write.

What do you think…

24 comments:

Americaneocon said...

Great posting, Ottavio!

I was thinking about an Afghanistan post myself. There's some interesting new research out on the insurgency there, and the Pakistan border culture, so I'll be checking back here for information.

Keep it up!

Debbie said...

I think Europe is on the verge of complete takeover by the Muslims who want to actually instate sharia law. America still has hope, we can stop that here if our politicians get serious and acknowledge the threat.

I believe the threat from within a nation today is worse than threats from abroad.

Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth

Debbie said...

p.s. I thought you might be interested in Prime Minister Harpers comments here:

http://www.cfrb.com/player/player?mediapath=&type=mp3&fi=files%2Fsrimedia%2FTAN-harper-%20israel%20burma%20interviewMay8-08.MP3&nid=714970&

Brian, aka Nanoc, aka Norski said...

Debbie has a point.

Although I believe that a sort of 'fifth column' takeover is possible, it's not the biggest issue that I see.

I have heard nothing to suggest that the native populations of European countries have succeeded in bringing their birth rates up to replacement levels. Since recently-immigrated Islamic populations are doubling their numbers about every 25 years, it's only a matter of time until Europe will be a continent populated primarily by ethnically non-European Muslims.

After a few centuries, of course, an Indo-Arabian, Islamic, Europe will be considered the norm: and melanin-deficient aborigines may find themselves in a position similar to the Ainu in Japan.

WomanHonorThyself said...

things are brewing indeed otto and the stats are frightening as ever with increasing Musssssslim populations!

The Lonely Conservative said...

Otto, I agree with you completely. It's time for European countries to step up and start to shoulder their share of the burden.

Elaine said...

It's definitely time for the Europeans to step up to the plate but it's highly doubtful that they will. I have an American friend (ex NYC school teacher) married to a German man, and has lived there for the last 15 years or so. You know there are now German elementary schools with NO German students, most are Muslim.

American Interests.blog said...

Donald:
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/
Iraq although important has pushed Afghanistan in the backgorund. Both are important in the war on terror..

Debbbie:
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/
Thanks for the stark reminder, Europe is a worry. We must not let this happen to America...

Brian:
http://anotherwaronterrorblog.blogspot.com/
An accurate projection as based on Debbie's point. Do you think it's too late , is the process reversable?

Jungle Mom said...

My young cousin celebrated his birthday in Afghanistan today, so this is always on my mind. He is an officer in the Army.

American Interests.blog said...

Angel:
http://www.womanhonorthyself.com/
The stats are best avoided. They raise my despondence.

the lonely conservative:
http://www.lonelyconservative.com/
May the real Europe stand up; now before its too late...Or what's left of it...
Thanks for commenting!

elaine:
http://elainesplace.net/
More irrefutable evidence, with so much Muslim infiltration little wonder their politicians are fearful of committing.
Thanks for commenting…

Aurora said...

Great post, Otto. The prospect of a united Islamic Europe along with the Islamic homeland in the Middle East is a nightmare. With this kind of geographic dominance, the global caliphate is well within reach. What will be the counterbalance with the west so inebriated and ineffectual?
It's crucial that we at least keep what we have gained and hold back the flood. If Europeans don't see this, they are going to reap disaster from their own indolence and apathey sooner than they realize.

American Interests.blog said...

jungle mom:
http://jungle-hut.blogspot.com/
God bless your cousin. We pray he fullfills duty and returns safely to those that hold him dear....
Thanks for commenting...

American Interests.blog said...

Aurora:
http://www.themidnightsun.org/
Good comments! The "global caliphate" within reach...at this rate I wonder what time frame for its complete immersion into Europe. Makes the Muslim homeworlds imperialist. What China is doing with money Muslim nations are doing with people...

David Schantz said...

You read the words "International Security Force" then you look at the chart. Something just doesn't seem right.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

American Interests.blog said...

David:
http://arepublic.blogspot.com/
A very good point!

GrEaT sAtAn'S gIrLfRiEnD said...

OtToBaBe! Great Post - NATO seems to have rebranded herself into North Atlantic Trade ORg. Totally uncool - but honestly - consider - Europa couldn't even take an 8 hour panzer ride to Belgrade to take out Milosevic.

Really think NATO will deploy in lightless scary places in the world to protect and expand freedoms? Or do they only know how to enjoy them?

Amer Taheri spilled some leaky stuff about how Sarkozy does his Cab meetings,

"Imagine, there is no US. Are the European nations threatened by radical Islamism or not?

Imagine there is no US, does the European Union depend on oil and gas imports from the Greater Middle East?

Imagine there is no US, is the acquisition of nuclear weapons by the Khomeinist regime in Tehran good or bad for France and the European Union?

Imagine there is no US, isn't Europe safer if Afghanistan and Iraq are transformed into friendly democracies rather than a safe haven for terrorists?

France responds to its friends. This is a sign to all that France is
participating in the stability of this region of the world."

http://www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/world/10183992.html

Incognito said...

I think it's pitiful, that those with the most to lose (namely the Europeans) have not stepped up to the plate, and that the U.S. is continuously expected to fight the world's fight.

It's definitely time for them to make more of an effort to save their proverbial asses.

American Interests.blog said...

GSGF:
http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/
I see you're telling it like it is; not mixing your words. I do believe everything you say about NATO is corect. Thanks for the link...

Incognito: Glad you agree incog; thank for stopping by...

Karen said...

Terrific post, Otto. Many of us are quite worried about the looking-the-other-way of the European leaders and how they respond to the Muslim takeover of ordinary life in pockets of population there.

I love Sarko. He totally gets it and will be a good friend to the U.S., unless a President Obama blows it for us, which he would.

Looks as though the General you referrenced has some sense about him. I think Secretary Gates has been trying to tell us that the U.S. involvement has to ratchet up to counter the rising Taliban insurgency.

Well written and ponder worthy as usual, Otto.

Layla said...

Hi Otto! Great write-up. This is a real problem that has broad spectrum results if not handled properly. But then most apologists here and abroad would rather turn the other way and ignore this growing situation.

Be aware that it it 'in' amongst Muslims now to have what is termed 'Jihad Brides' - and it is quite common for women to look up to the men they marry wanting him to be a "Jihad Warrior."

It is worse in Europe than the here, but it is happening here too.

Remember the two sisters brutally killed in TX by their sharia law enforcing father?

These girls told their teachers they were afraid of him, but instead of helping these to poor girls they turned the other way-G-d forbid you mess with a Muslim. SPIT!

Those two girls should have been alive, those teachers should have interviened - they have blood on their hands.

TRUTH-PAIN said...

Otto,
As long as America is willing to stick their toes in a foreign land such as Af-crap-astan, there is the implied message to Europe that says "don't worry Euro's, American boots are on the ground and as long as they are there it will be a "firewall" against that which threatens you,.. be it communism or Muslim extremism".

There has been a century-long European dependence on American Boots on the ground to do their dirty work. And for better of worse, we have acquiesced. WW1, WW2, and now the regional Muslo-fascism army.

I have wondered out loud among my friends what would happen, what would really happen if we (US) ever returned to Woodrow Wilson isolationism and had a President and Congress with the stones to recall every major military force from the cauldrons of turmoil. What would be the reaction or action of the adjoining countries?

They say necessity is the mother of invention. I wonder if the necessity of having an "America-free" Europe would compel the region to take up arms and grow a pair, or to simply lay down their flags...

The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

As usual NATO and others have become so used to leaning on the US and depending on America to take up all the slack that they are willing to just sit back and let our military take on the entire burden when everyone has a stake in Afghanistan.

Australia is one of the few exceptions who put their money and troops where their mouth is. They have always been Johnny on the spot in standing with the US and it is appreciated.

Good post Otto!

American Interests.blog said...

The Liberal Lie the Conservative Truth:
Personally I am honored to be part of a nation that genuinely assists the U.S. in foreign military excursions.

American Interests.blog said...

Karen:
http://ponderingpenguin.blogspot.com/
Europe will one day be sorry for allowing itself to be literally absorbed by foreigners. Sarkozy and more recently Berlusconi (Italy) are good news...

layla:
http://thehillchronicles.com/
Thanks for highlighting just some of the problems associated traditional Muslim practice within our societies. The story of the two girls was remains disturbing...

Truth Pain:
http://truthpain.blogspot.com/
Scary thought the isolation premise. But you know, maybe it's a case of cruel to be kind. Withdraw and compel Europe and the like to take up the slack or heavon forbid, "lay down their flags".