August 11, 2008

Georgian Crises reveals key difference between McCain and Obama

We may have just been been provided with a sample of how the next President of the United States would react in a crisis involving a major regional power - in this case Russia.

John McCain says, “Tensions and hostilities between Georgians and Ossetians are in no way justification for Russian troops crossing an internationally recognized border.” He also called on, “Russia to immediately and unconditionally withdraw its forces from the territory of Georgia.” ...

Barack Obama called for, “talks among all sides and said the United States, the U.N. Security Council and other parties should try to help bring about a peaceful resolution.” Obama looked forward to “an international peacekeeping force” under “an appropriate UN mandate.” ...

Summing up, John McCain bluntly denounces Russia’s behavior demanding that they immediately and unconditionally withdraw. Conversely, Obama wants to shift the responsibility to the masters of ineffectiveness, the U.N.

Further reading: The crisis in Georgia, 9/11, and the lessons of gratitude

Then this happens: Georgia claims Russia in Gori attack - "The Georgian city of Gori is under "massive" attack from Russian artillery and planes and ground forces are preparing for an assault, according to the Georgian interior ministry. "There was massive bombing of Gori all evening and now we are getting reports of an imminent attack by Russian tanks,” interior ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said. “Gori is being bombed massively from the air and from artillery as well.” Subsequently Obama abruptly changes his tune sounding more like McCain

Obama may yet make a half-decent President, however this latest crises and especially the, “It’s both sides’ fault — both have been somewhat provocative with each other,” reveals he is more of a follower than leader – not encouraging! While we are on the subject, can we now expect the very same media that takes pride in criticizing U.S. foreign policy over Iraq and the Middle East to call for intervention if matters escalate…?


The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

"Obama may yet make a half-decent President" Bite your tongue Otto! Not only will that not happen but he won't be President for it to possibly happen!

Obama conflicting reactions are typical of every response he has to anything. He first reacts according to how he truly sees the situation. The "citizen of the world" Then when he looks at polls or the reactions by others that differ from his he changes his tune.

This is not a leader but as you said a follower which is a dangerous charachter trait for a President of The United States.

heidianne jackson said...

i have already spoken to others [liberals all] who say we need to back down and let things play out. that russia going in to "save the south ossetians" is no different than what we've done in iraq.

the difference is monumental. we did not go into iraq with an eye towards taking some (all?) of their land away. we went in and toppled a ruthless dictator who had a stockpile of wmd, who was supporting terrorism worldwide and who was a terrorist (along with his sons) against his own people.

russia views georgia to be within its sphere of geopolitical dominance. how does this bode for those in places such as the balkan republics and the czech republic and even poland. these countries, as was georgia, are not doing things the way russia is dictating.

how can we stand by and watch this? it's almost as if russia is trying to rebuild it's soviet bloc.

The Historian said...


This is pure naked agression by Russia in an effort to both regain status as a top world power as well as grab a mother lode of natural resources including oil.

They do so at a time that is more "safe" from an American armed response than normal. Bush has his hands tied, McCain is someone they do not want to wait on and have to deal with later and they are comfortable that they already wholly own Obama.

The Obama comment about going before the UN Security Council where Russia is a permanent member who can veto any action proposed by other members is intellectually bankrupt.

The invasion of Georgia is very serious business for the remainder of the world, particularly the west.

MK said...

Obama's reaction is perfectly predictable, he is the product of an ideology that blames America first, last and always. America can do no right so the only thing he will do is nothing. Funny thing is he probably thinks that standing by and doing nothing is actually something.

"Obama may yet make a half-decent President...."

Judging by what he's done and hasn't done and how he's voted in the past, 'half-decent' is wishful thinking Otto. Unless you mean like a John Edwards / Slick Willy type 'decent'. :)

Aurora said...

Obama's banal cliches is just typical duality, yin/yang, moral relativist bull. You'll get no commitment to taking a stance against the actions of an evil empire like Russia and yes, this speaks volumes about what kind of president he's going to be. I'm with 'liberal lie'. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama, if elected, will go down in history for all the wrong reasons.

AI said...

When I wrote "Obama may yet make a half-decent President ..."

I meant “half-way” as in, "to some extent but not complete or completely". That said, I can certainly understand why it is misinterpreted...


Z said...

Otto..Obama's NOW agreeing that "Russia must stop this aggression". His first reflexes are exactly what you described.

What's really scary is how his first intuitions/edicts are always SO WRONG. What he seems to need is to hear the negative reaction to his first edicts, hear McCain's words, and THEN make a more worthy decision!! How's that work if (GOD FORBID) he's 'elected' President? (put quotes around 'elected' because I have serious fears of voter fraud)

thanks for coming by geeeeZ! I always like having you there. Your remark re: mine at Angel's touched me and helped me to stay with this thing. it mattered..thanks so much.xx

GrEaT sAtAn'S gIrLfRiEnD said...

Only one cat running seems to share my personal epiphany. And the rowdy Russia reprise illuminated it beyond repair:

Which one of these is not like the other?

McCain got it totally correct!

Debbie said...

Yes, Courtney is correct, McCain got it right. I listened to him this morning speaking before a crowd, didn't get where. He actually sounded presidential. He gave an off the history of the region, of Georgia, Russia, explained what was happening, why it was wrong, why we needed to support Georgia.

If McCain would speak like this all the time, rather than using some of those stupid speeches someone writes for him, pausing with that idiotic grin he has, he could get folks behind him pronto. This is the kind of man voters need to see and hear.

Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth

David Schantz said...

I'am surprised that this has gotten so much media attention after all it was Russia and not the United States that attacked another country.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic

Karen said...

This is what I'm posting on later today, too, Otto. This tragic invasion perfectly focuses us on the distinct difference between the candidates on national security. Thank you, Putin, is what I say.

And for all those so delusional that still say they won't vote for McCain for some kind of moral highmindedness,, that we have to suffer through an Obama presidency to get a 'true' conservative again? So incredibly naive and dangerous. Not to mention just plain stupid and selfish.

WomanHonorThyself said...

naked aggression cant be responded to with "chatting' and appeasement..youre spot on as always Otto!!:)

Layla said...

Hi Otto,

Hope you are well.

All I have been thinking is that Reagan must be rolling over in his grave.

I honestly believe that Putin has been heading Russia in this direction for years. They had no intentions of becoming a democracy.

They are hypocrites and unfortunately now Georgia is paying for their short lived independence.

If Russia has their way they will take it back and brutalize these people just as in the past.

Jungle Mom said...

I liked David's comment! Hello from Paragauy again!

Race Brunton said...

In response to Debbie, If McCain knew the real history of the situation, he would not be taking the harsh tack against the Russians that he is taking now. The fact of the matter is that Russia does not seek to take away any of Georgia's land, because the land doesn't belong to the Georgians. Of all the raging disputes in the world at the moment, none have a clearer right and a wrong here-and Russia is right! I think it bodes ill for us all that neither of our candidates can recognize that.

And if you don't believe me, read my blog on the Georgian situation:

Lauren said...

Like others have pointed out, it just blew my mind to realize Obama knew nothing of foreign relations. A President should know who is on the UN Security Council and if they can veto a vote.

Experience matters. Plain and simple.